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which is romney, that is romney's strongest age demographic. debbie, let's talk about this. how much stock do the campaigns put into polls, especially this close toe election day? how reliable are those polls when you factor in access to varied demographics? do voters pay attention to these polls? >> i have a theory on polling. i'm gonna get my doctorate some day and write it on this. polls are a snapshot in time, there are so many polls, and they drive things they should not drive. both campaigns have sophisticated people that know how to read polling and take it into account. some let it drive the news media, sometimes it drives fundraising in a way it shouldn't. the fact of the matter is, it is a snapshot in time. i keep reminding people of two elections one was michigan in 1990. the free press detroit news had polls taken out on governor ambulance char's campaign -- governor blanch's campaign, he lost. >> arthel: ron how important are the polls do voters pay attention? >> voters definitely pay attention to polls, they hear a lot about polls there's been a lot of media hy
which is romney, that is romney's strongest age demographic. debbie, let's talk about this. how much stock do the campaigns put into polls, especially this close toe election day? how reliable are those polls when you factor in access to varied demographics? do voters pay attention to these polls? >> i have a theory on polling. i'm gonna get my doctorate some day and write it on this. polls are a snapshot in time, there are so many polls, and they drive things they should not drive. both...
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that is what romney talks about. when sigh him do that, i feel pretty good about because i think he is on the right path. you may not hear it through the mega phone of national media and he should do it more. >> paul: i paid attention to your race in 2010. you ran against a candidate ted strickland very much like the president is, tried to associate with you wall street and big banks. you beat him. how can mitt romney beat a campaign like that in ohio? >> he's got to be here paul. he was in high hometown not long ago. he had an overflow crowd that was amazing. i've been around a lot of national campaigns. when you are out with him. you see the enthusiasm. look the most important thing for candidate running for president is to get people to understand that he understands their problems or she understands their problems and knows how to fix them. jim roads the fourth term governor of ohio, all that matters in ohio is the size of this wallet. sf it's getting fatter, they will do well. if it is small are, they will not d
that is what romney talks about. when sigh him do that, i feel pretty good about because i think he is on the right path. you may not hear it through the mega phone of national media and he should do it more. >> paul: i paid attention to your race in 2010. you ran against a candidate ted strickland very much like the president is, tried to associate with you wall street and big banks. you beat him. how can mitt romney beat a campaign like that in ohio? >> he's got to be here paul....
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for romney by the way? >> at this point i can't bring myself to ask for four more years of this. >> bill: you are rooting for romney. >> just like i said, i can't stand another four years of this. i will will gamble on a different approach. >> bill: there you go. directly ahead, ben stein says hillary clinton should lose her job as secretary of state over the assassination in libya. and later actor samuel l. jackson ranting on behalf of >> bill: personal story segment tonight, commentator ben stein very angry about the assassination of the american ambassador to libya. earlier this week mr. stein said this about secretary of state hillary clinton. >> she should have resigned over that murder of the ambassador in libya because it was her fault that he didn't have adequate security. >> oh o, you know what? it is a good point. you know, when -- >> -- she is in charge. >> yeah. >> if she screws up, she should resign. >> bill: joining us now from los angeles is ben stein. so, yeah, i mean, you know, in theory, y
for romney by the way? >> at this point i can't bring myself to ask for four more years of this. >> bill: you are rooting for romney. >> just like i said, i can't stand another four years of this. i will will gamble on a different approach. >> bill: there you go. directly ahead, ben stein says hillary clinton should lose her job as secretary of state over the assassination in libya. and later actor samuel l. jackson ranting on behalf of >> bill: personal story...
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for romney by the way? >> at this point i can't bring myself to ask for four more years of this. >> bill: you are rooting for romney. >> just like i said, i can't stand another four years of this. i will will gamble on a different approach. >> bill: there you go. directly ahead, ben stein says hillary clinton should lose her job as secretary of state over the assassination in libya. and later actor samuel l. jackson ranting on behalf of of --pe gutfeld and mcguirk upcoming. (sfx: sound of piano smashing) roadrunner: meep meep. meep meep? (sfx: loud thud sound) what a strange place. geico®. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. so let's talk about coverage. based on this chart, who would you choose ? wow. you guys take a minute. zon, hands down. i'm going to show you guys another chart. pretty obvious. i don't think color matters. pretty obvious. what'sretty obvious about it ? that verizon has the coverage. verizon. verizon. we're going to go to another chart. it doesn't r
for romney by the way? >> at this point i can't bring myself to ask for four more years of this. >> bill: you are rooting for romney. >> just like i said, i can't stand another four years of this. i will will gamble on a different approach. >> bill: there you go. directly ahead, ben stein says hillary clinton should lose her job as secretary of state over the assassination in libya. and later actor samuel l. jackson ranting on behalf of of --pe gutfeld and mcguirk...
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for romney by the way? >> at this point i can't bring myself to ask for four more years of this. >> bill: you are rooting for romney. >> just like i said, i can't stand another four years of this. i will will gamble on a different approach. >> bill: there you go. directly ahead, ben stein says hillary clinton should lose her job as secretary of state over the assassination in libya. and later actor samuel l. and later actor samuel l. jackson ranting on behalf ofely. but because of business people like you, things are beginning to get rolling. and regions is here to help. making it easier with the expertise and service to keep those wheels turning. from business loans to cash management, we want to be your partner moving forward. so switch to regions. and let's get going. together. >> bill: personal story segment tonight, commentator ben stein very angry about the assassination of the american ambassador to libya. earlier this week mr. stein said this about secretary of state hillary clinton. >> she should h
for romney by the way? >> at this point i can't bring myself to ask for four more years of this. >> bill: you are rooting for romney. >> just like i said, i can't stand another four years of this. i will will gamble on a different approach. >> bill: there you go. directly ahead, ben stein says hillary clinton should lose her job as secretary of state over the assassination in libya. and later actor samuel l. and later actor samuel l. jackson ranting on behalf ofely. but...
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they've had substantially less time to prepare than mitt romney. mitt romney devoted three full days in vermont to debate preparations. the president is lucky to be able to devote three consecutive hours to debate preparation. >> it is something that you have to do to lower the expectations, because expectations are running quite high on both sides about the debate itself, what we can expect to see. >> well, i think everybody's expectations are running high. generally challengers win the first debate, especially against incumbents, because incumbents have not had the opportunity to debate in several years. >> you're already conceding the challenger might win this debate? >> i think there's a good chance governor romney will win this debate. look, he won virtually every debate during the republican primaries. he actually dispatched no newt gingrich, demolishe demolished e florida debate. the president is very good at delivering a message to the american people, but generally more like you saw at the democratic convention, in kind of a longer format.
they've had substantially less time to prepare than mitt romney. mitt romney devoted three full days in vermont to debate preparations. the president is lucky to be able to devote three consecutive hours to debate preparation. >> it is something that you have to do to lower the expectations, because expectations are running quite high on both sides about the debate itself, what we can expect to see. >> well, i think everybody's expectations are running high. generally challengers...
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romney, what he does it's vol temporary. when the government does, it's taking our resources and playing politics with it. it's about trade barrier, stealing our intellectual property rights, what both candidates should be focused on, not this thing about who invests more in china. >> david: if it's private money, may it go where it will. private investors are free to do with their money, but not my money, not my tax dollars. >> i hav no allergic relax to governor romney investing in china, if that's what he wants to do. the issue is he makes these investments, goes out on the campaign trail, trashes china, tells us these things he's going to get tough about, when we know he's never going to do any of it. >> david: how do we know any of it, by the way? >> we don't know it, but i'm pretty darn sure. here's the most interesting part, when he finally releases his tax return, we see he quickly sold off the investment he had because he looked guilty. that's kind of silly, isn't it? like the kid getting caught with his hand in the
romney, what he does it's vol temporary. when the government does, it's taking our resources and playing politics with it. it's about trade barrier, stealing our intellectual property rights, what both candidates should be focused on, not this thing about who invests more in china. >> david: if it's private money, may it go where it will. private investors are free to do with their money, but not my money, not my tax dollars. >> i hav no allergic relax to governor romney investing...
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he has done a good job of disqualifying mitt romney and he is working against that and romney needs to get back to all the voters who might think he is not as qualified to be president and prove to that he is. >> gregg: i'm struck by the number of pundits and journalists that sort of pro nourng nounsing this race as over -- pronouncing this race as over. they said undecided voters historically choose the challenger. you would expect the remaining undecided voters to break not exclusively but disproportionately for mitt romney rather than president obama. does that make the debates all the more relevant and vital? >> no question about it. i would pointed out to you in a lot of these swing states, president obama is getting up to about 50% getting close and in some states he is just about over. it doesn't matter necessarily if there is a 4-point difference if he is reaching the 50% mark he is good shape. a lot of these voters are still waiting to see what mitt romney will bring. i talked to undecided voter in ohio the other day and he said he has taken his kids to president obama's ralli
he has done a good job of disqualifying mitt romney and he is working against that and romney needs to get back to all the voters who might think he is not as qualified to be president and prove to that he is. >> gregg: i'm struck by the number of pundits and journalists that sort of pro nourng nounsing this race as over -- pronouncing this race as over. they said undecided voters historically choose the challenger. you would expect the remaining undecided voters to break not exclusively...
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fox news poll has romney down five points. it suggests romney is down. pat who is not a republican and pollster, says, look, what the media are doing is hitting hard and spending their own money and deciding to spend money on polls in virginia and ohio states where obama is clearly clobbering romney. see, he is 8 points. he miss be losing nationwide. it's not completely wrong but it's to create a bandwagon effect that romney is a goner. >> rick: do you agree with him that we're going to hear tightening of the race and that is because the media wants to generated ratings or because there is a guilt on the mainstream media, maybe we should be covering this a little more fairly than we have bon been. you are shaking your head no? >> i do think media polls can be a little skewed. i have a friend that used to do it. ding, it's been cooked and here is what you wanted. the thing is, there is bias but it's evenly split. some are weighted towards republicans and some are weighted towards democrats so the real clear politics average so romney is down about four po
fox news poll has romney down five points. it suggests romney is down. pat who is not a republican and pollster, says, look, what the media are doing is hitting hard and spending their own money and deciding to spend money on polls in virginia and ohio states where obama is clearly clobbering romney. see, he is 8 points. he miss be losing nationwide. it's not completely wrong but it's to create a bandwagon effect that romney is a goner. >> rick: do you agree with him that we're going to...
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mitt romney makes a good case. what we might end up in a war it's the policies of president obama in southeast asia and pakistani and afghanistan and in the middle east. >> patti ann:. >> paul: when you say creating a vacuum. since we left iraq and it is winding down but we didn't leave any troops there. we are staying out of syria. then, of course, the biggest problem, brett, is iran? >> you have to ask yourself is this a president that says we're going to have any more wars in middle east, how about con sunltd go israel, netanyahu saying. >> paul: 90% on their way to a nuclear bomb? >> they are increasing their capacity. a few months by the international atomic energy. i've been told by nuclear scientists that once you are 20% you are actually 87% way toward the goal. >> paul: key point of war, gets down to a fundamental difference of foreign policy, whether or not president obama's policy towards iran, four years of trying to coax them into a discussion quid pro quo, if you stop pursuing a nuclear weapon hasn't
mitt romney makes a good case. what we might end up in a war it's the policies of president obama in southeast asia and pakistani and afghanistan and in the middle east. >> patti ann:. >> paul: when you say creating a vacuum. since we left iraq and it is winding down but we didn't leave any troops there. we are staying out of syria. then, of course, the biggest problem, brett, is iran? >> you have to ask yourself is this a president that says we're going to have any more wars...
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for obama, john kerry's plays romney. rob portman plays obama. >> you never see videotape of this, not even pictures. >> no. there's a reason why. you don't want to show those vulnerable moments. >> we don't want to give away any component to our prep. >> in the 2000 campaign, one of mckinnon's secretaries gave prep video to the gore campaign. >> gore campaign went straight to the fbi. >> what happened to her? >> she went to prison for a year. >> what's so secret? i pretended to be a candidate. limited government -- >> just limited government. what kind of limits are you talking about? can you be specific. >> yes, i can list cuts. >> would you cut defense? >> so you're soft on defense? >> i knew how i should answer the questions, but under pressure it's hard. i'm saying take it back to the clinton days. "instinct is to answer the questions that are asked, but consultants day don't. >> you're still answering my questions, but most of the time you want to be delivering your message. >> they say sarah palin was good at that.
for obama, john kerry's plays romney. rob portman plays obama. >> you never see videotape of this, not even pictures. >> no. there's a reason why. you don't want to show those vulnerable moments. >> we don't want to give away any component to our prep. >> in the 2000 campaign, one of mckinnon's secretaries gave prep video to the gore campaign. >> gore campaign went straight to the fbi. >> what happened to her? >> she went to prison for a year. >>...
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pounding the daylights out of him, and romney's or -- >> sean: i don't get it. i don't know why we're not seeing more pounding by him. do you think it starts next wednesday in colorado? >> sometimes he says positive things about obama. he cares about the middle class. no, barack obama doesn't care about the middle class. if he cared about the middle class, he wouldn't be putting through obama tax hikes on people in the middle class. >> let me just say that next wednesday night, this is it. they need to turn this campaign around. debates are vehicles of challengers. this is his chance to do this. >> sean: we need the mitt romney that showed up after losing south carolina, where he went into that state up double digits, and came out winning by double digits -- i'm sorry -- lost by double digits, then went to florida and had two debates with newt, that's the romney i want. >> the one-on-one debate forum is not necessarily president obama's best either. they've been after him for $700 million on character. the american people get 90 minutes to see whether or not tha
pounding the daylights out of him, and romney's or -- >> sean: i don't get it. i don't know why we're not seeing more pounding by him. do you think it starts next wednesday in colorado? >> sometimes he says positive things about obama. he cares about the middle class. no, barack obama doesn't care about the middle class. if he cared about the middle class, he wouldn't be putting through obama tax hikes on people in the middle class. >> let me just say that next wednesday...
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>> i hope that mitt romney stands strong and talks about foreign policy. because two weeks before september 11th, we heard at the dnc, you and i both did together. hey, gm is alive and osama bin laden is dead, that's not foreign policy so mitt romney has a grand opportunity to raise his poll numbers by putting obama's feet to the fire. >> there's only one candidate who politicized the death of four american heroes, you know, late at night on september 11th and he was really rebuked by many leading republicans for how, you know, just not ready for prime time he was. i think he showed his lack of depth and experience on foreign policy clearly on september 11th, but i think, you know, all of the calls and points to that this is a coverup is-- it's really laughable in a sense. i don't want to, you know, take away from the seriousness of the loss of american life, but you know, my mom always says, i look for love in all the wrong places. republicans and angela, you and your counterparts are looking for a coverup in all the wrong places. >> i have not said one t
>> i hope that mitt romney stands strong and talks about foreign policy. because two weeks before september 11th, we heard at the dnc, you and i both did together. hey, gm is alive and osama bin laden is dead, that's not foreign policy so mitt romney has a grand opportunity to raise his poll numbers by putting obama's feet to the fire. >> there's only one candidate who politicized the death of four american heroes, you know, late at night on september 11th and he was really rebuked...
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we the ask governor huckabee will romney try to be funny? >>alisyn: clay done was one of the funniest in new york. we will talk about that soon. there were phone calls between binyamin netanyahu, president obama calling netanyahu a mid-criticism for not meeting with him in person this week. the white house says they agreed that both countries must stop iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. mitt romney speaking with netanyahu about the country's greatest national security threat. >> we have very much the same interests to make sure iran does not develop nuclear capability which would threaten the existence of israel. the threat, devastation, potentially of israel and other nations of the world. we must make every effort to prevent that from developing that nuclear capability. >> he has called for crippling sanctions to be put in place. >> the u.s. admitting they lost track of some of syria's chemical weapons and cannot rule out their ran or syrian rebels have them. >> there has been intelligence that there have been some moves that have taken
we the ask governor huckabee will romney try to be funny? >>alisyn: clay done was one of the funniest in new york. we will talk about that soon. there were phone calls between binyamin netanyahu, president obama calling netanyahu a mid-criticism for not meeting with him in person this week. the white house says they agreed that both countries must stop iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. mitt romney speaking with netanyahu about the country's greatest national security threat. >>...
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and also, governor romney speaking by phone, with prime minister netanyahu on iran after the call, the governor telling reporters, he doesn't believe military action will be necessary, but added that he would not, quote, take that option off the table and that he and netanyahu agree that both countries make every effort from taking those nuclear weapons. i'm jamie colby, bulls and bears on the fox news channel, it's america's election headquarters. keep it right here. >> goodbye free, hello fees. the new report showing more banks ditching free checking accounts, costly financial reforms supposed to protect consumers, kyle, you say it's going to get worse for consumers, how so. >> the current administration, brenda, with the dodd frank regulatory environment here alive and well, has increased the regulatory costs to these banks in order to remain and continue solvent and guess who they're going to pass the costs on to? the consumer. no more free checking, you're going to be charged for your checking accounts. >> now, now, free checking accounts, they're not exactly a birth right, are th
and also, governor romney speaking by phone, with prime minister netanyahu on iran after the call, the governor telling reporters, he doesn't believe military action will be necessary, but added that he would not, quote, take that option off the table and that he and netanyahu agree that both countries make every effort from taking those nuclear weapons. i'm jamie colby, bulls and bears on the fox news channel, it's america's election headquarters. keep it right here. >> goodbye free,...
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put your plan on the table and pass that budget through congress, and mitt romney offered a plan, president obama hasn't done any of that. he disavowed bowles simpson and offered all the it i haves -- alternative plans. the even bowles simpson, it didn't address the primary driver of our debt. health care programs. starting going bankrupt. i don't want a pass a bill to fix the fiscal crisis when i know it doesn't fix the fiscal crisis. >> neil: he's saying it didn't go far enough. charles payne, ben stein, dagen mcdowell and adam lashinsky and charlie gasperino. >> i think it was a good place to start, to ryan's point, it was with respect to social security or medical spending, you know, and the ideal spending cap. if we adhere to spending caps we wouldn't be in this position in the first place, so i take his point although i think it would have been a good starting point for everyone to say, okay, let's start with this and then go from there. ben stein? >> we've gotten ourselves into a such a deep hole and everyone wants to avoid tax, tax, tax, we can't. yes, they've got it cut it, and goi
put your plan on the table and pass that budget through congress, and mitt romney offered a plan, president obama hasn't done any of that. he disavowed bowles simpson and offered all the it i haves -- alternative plans. the even bowles simpson, it didn't address the primary driver of our debt. health care programs. starting going bankrupt. i don't want a pass a bill to fix the fiscal crisis when i know it doesn't fix the fiscal crisis. >> neil: he's saying it didn't go far enough. charles...
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if i'm romney, you try to create that momentum. he saw a sign to do it. >> of the eight presidential races in the past 10 where the leads were cut or flipped by the opponent, the average of the comebacks was roughly 5%. in some cases it was a debate that moved the needle. harris? >> mike, thank you of the let's go to syria where the u.n. is estimating more than 20,000 citizens have died in the uprising against the government in the past year and a half. [gunfire] >> obviously you can hear the gunfire as fighting between the rebels and government forces in aleppo intensifies. one activist saying no one is making gains. this has been a key point for them fighting there, and people there are so frightened of the snipers they're leaving dead bodies lying in the streets. >>> meanwhile the fighting sparking a major fire in the city's medieval market. this was actually once a major tourist attraction and world heritage site. activists say there was shelling and gunfire, and some 100 shops were destroyed. >>> now to yemen, they're saying o
if i'm romney, you try to create that momentum. he saw a sign to do it. >> of the eight presidential races in the past 10 where the leads were cut or flipped by the opponent, the average of the comebacks was roughly 5%. in some cases it was a debate that moved the needle. harris? >> mike, thank you of the let's go to syria where the u.n. is estimating more than 20,000 citizens have died in the uprising against the government in the past year and a half. [gunfire] >> obviously...
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advantage given to mitt romney. not surprise that president obama would have been forth right instead of trying to cover his butt, maybe it wouldn't have happened. we wouldn't have four americans dead if they would have done the job. >> bob: that is one of the most outrageous statement us heard you say. if they had done the job before -- you're taking unnamed intelligence sources to make a stories based on that. >> andrea: ahead, filmmaker blamed for violence in the muslim world has been arrested. what was the alleged crime? we will tell you when we come back. hopefully bob will stop talking. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: got to love "the who." nothing says presidential leadership like decisive action. that's what we saw last night with the producer of the anti-islam film arrested for violating probation. yes, this arrest has nothing to do with the fill that obama and crew pinned the middle east mob on. no, just a coon dense, it's it - coon dense. it's all about probation. and i'm 5'10". the filmmaker gets no bai
advantage given to mitt romney. not surprise that president obama would have been forth right instead of trying to cover his butt, maybe it wouldn't have happened. we wouldn't have four americans dead if they would have done the job. >> bob: that is one of the most outrageous statement us heard you say. if they had done the job before -- you're taking unnamed intelligence sources to make a stories based on that. >> andrea: ahead, filmmaker blamed for violence in the muslim world has...
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we'll talk with romney advisor, former governor john sununu. all that and more coming up at the top of the hour. don't go away. >> students taking to the internet to protest the government's new school lunch program. the kids say they're going hungry because the rules require lower calorie meals. now republicans are introducing the no kids hungry act to repeal the rules. tracey, you say we need to get the government out altogether. >> yeah. i made three lunches this morning. some need more food than others. there are kids out there that this is sometimes the only good meal they get for the day, but we can't do this one-size-fits-all, everyone only gets three pieces of broccoli and two fish sticks. it's not enough for some kids. quite frankly it's more unhealthy, because then their blood sugar levels fall and they're dragging, they're not doing as well in school. >> todd, they're creating a black market for sweet stuff. i mean, those kids. >> yeah, that's a great idea. [laughter] the calorie idea getting i get,i understand that. maybe they're ge
we'll talk with romney advisor, former governor john sununu. all that and more coming up at the top of the hour. don't go away. >> students taking to the internet to protest the government's new school lunch program. the kids say they're going hungry because the rules require lower calorie meals. now republicans are introducing the no kids hungry act to repeal the rules. tracey, you say we need to get the government out altogether. >> yeah. i made three lunches this morning. some...
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bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i think if they would have gone in and dealt with immediately and honestly from the beginning, they wouldn't have had a campaign that said, to try to pin the entire four years of the economy on president obama. they would know that average people understand, he came in with a huge burden, a collapsing economy, and they would have -- he would have said, look, the first two years, that was the problem of the president's predecessor. you can't blame him for that. but the last two years, that's obama's. there were ways for him to deal with it. but frankly, it was a very, very difficult legacy for, i think any republican, romney or anyone, to have to deal. >> the romney campaign said it wants to make the election about the economy, and initially it really tried to do that. but polls show that now americans, as you mentioned, tend to assign more blame to bush than to obama when it comes to that issue. 68% say bush should get a great deal or mode
bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i think if they would have gone in and dealt with immediately and honestly from the beginning, they wouldn't have had a campaign that said, to try to pin the entire four years of the economy on president obama. they would know that average people understand, he came in with a huge burden, a collapsing economy, and they would have -- he...
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it was a bad week for mitt romney. he wanted to take time and look for bright spots in the campaign. can we find them? maybe something can fire up romney's dejected supporters. let's hear what the candidate himself had to say at a fund-raiser in pennsylvania today. >> you know, we would shock people if early in the evening of november 6th it looked like pennsylvania was going to come our way and did come our way. that can happen. that can happen. >> key word is shock. that can really happen? a real confidence booster. romney is right to feel uneasy about pennsylvania. republican poll stores told him why he is in a bad position with pennsylvania voters. >> the bain capital ads that the europe packs have run have stopped some of the mitt romney's growth in the western part of the state with working class voters. >> romney is not getting much support from those closest to him either. anonymous friends of the campaign savaged the candidate in politico. he was called lousy candidate and he doesn't know the room and he is mi
it was a bad week for mitt romney. he wanted to take time and look for bright spots in the campaign. can we find them? maybe something can fire up romney's dejected supporters. let's hear what the candidate himself had to say at a fund-raiser in pennsylvania today. >> you know, we would shock people if early in the evening of november 6th it looked like pennsylvania was going to come our way and did come our way. that can happen. that can happen. >> key word is shock. that can...
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romney's got another problem. lots of candidates have been caught making embarrassing mistakes, but romney was caught saying something that he really believes. joining me now, john nichols. great to you have with us tonight. you think romney's comment is a gaffe like the ones we have seen from other candidates in the past that just have made the infamous highlight reel forever? >> i think we may have seen a game changer. you can't say that on the night it happens or the night it comes out. you got to watch over time. but what's significant is that the advantage that obama got as that began to lock in has continued. in fact, his advantage has tennten continued to grow. just in the last couple days analysts have moved almost all of the battleground states like pennsylvania or michigan now likely democratic states. >> down in wisconsin as well? >> absolutely. weep saw larry sabato, just moved four u.s. senate races from leans republican to toss-up. these are states like north dakota. i think there is an impact. i thi
romney's got another problem. lots of candidates have been caught making embarrassing mistakes, but romney was caught saying something that he really believes. joining me now, john nichols. great to you have with us tonight. you think romney's comment is a gaffe like the ones we have seen from other candidates in the past that just have made the infamous highlight reel forever? >> i think we may have seen a game changer. you can't say that on the night it happens or the night it comes...
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who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything for him. it's his last chance. donors are going to go away if he doesn't do well. he's going to lose the support of establishment republicans who will start giving their money to senate candidates instead. it's a tremendous amount of pressure. so he's really got the expectations game that he's got to fulfill, and we'll see how he does. >> anne, this praise of mitt romney about an anecdote of being abandoned on a boat his hi grandkids. take a look and take a listen. >> i said, who's going to grab the rope? and i looked up, and there was mitt romney. so he pull ed me in, tied up th boat for me,
who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything...
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mitt romney, you're wrong. we need more teachers, not fewer teachers and more cops and more firefighters that support our septic disasters are disgusting and costly, but avoidable. the rid-x septic subscriber program helps prevent backups by sending you monthly doses right to your door so you will never forget to maintain your system. sign up at rid-x.com. failure to vote can make or break an election. if you don't think that's true why do you think a little man [ censor bleep ] florida? >> jennifer: who can for get that video? well sarah silverman and her pals are at it again, in 2012 and they have enlisted the help of some very high profile friends. take a look. >> millionaires just declared war, on schools, the environment, unions fair pay, we're all on our own if mitt romney is elected. i strongly suggest that you wake the [ censor bleep ] up. >> jennifer: so now let's get to one of the brains behind the great shlep and wake the bleep up. thank you for being here? >> thank you for having me. >> how did you
mitt romney, you're wrong. we need more teachers, not fewer teachers and more cops and more firefighters that support our septic disasters are disgusting and costly, but avoidable. the rid-x septic subscriber program helps prevent backups by sending you monthly doses right to your door so you will never forget to maintain your system. sign up at rid-x.com. failure to vote can make or break an election. if you don't think that's true why do you think a little man [ censor bleep ] florida?...
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>> ryan, ryan. >> way to a second, romney-ryan, romney-ryan, there you go. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> joe scarborough and mika brzezinski on "morning joe." "slowly and reluctantly, republicans who love romney are concluding that for all his gifts as a leader and role model, he is just not a good political candidate in this era." is that fair, mark? >> it is affair. you want to go to the numbers. wherever mitt romney goes, his unfavorable numbers go up. in florida in may, he was at 35% unfavorable. now he is 48% unfavorable. in ohio, 34%, now 49%. it is a problem. that has just been the reverse with obama. what do you do? mitt does not have a rose garden. >> charles, you write that in the wake of what is happening in the middle east, romney's "un willingness to go big is simply astonishing." >> it was a great opening this week, with embassies of flame, the ambassador killed, writes -- riots -- that is a collapse of the four-year policy on the middle east. rather than make a serious speech connecting the dots and talking about exactly that, the collapse of the policy or the result of a naiv
>> ryan, ryan. >> way to a second, romney-ryan, romney-ryan, there you go. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> joe scarborough and mika brzezinski on "morning joe." "slowly and reluctantly, republicans who love romney are concluding that for all his gifts as a leader and role model, he is just not a good political candidate in this era." is that fair, mark? >> it is affair. you want to go to the numbers. wherever mitt romney goes, his unfavorable numbers go...
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romney will win that. everyone is surprised that all of these polls are pretty much saying obama is in command of the lead. chuck talked about they lost august. one reading is that they lost the summer, the romney campaign. if you look at obama did, they did, at the start of this race was in may. that's when they started going out with tough ads and framing romney as someone who wasn't in touch with the middle class and the tax issue, him releasing his tax returns. he was always on the defensive and now he has a lot of ground to make up. gwen: is there an argument to be made that there is a policy shift going on in america's mind as well, not just a good speech or a good piece of positioning, but actually people are looking at their choices differently now? >> there are ways to think of this, not just through polling data but economic data and there is a surge of optimism. small business confidence is up. some financial market participant indexes are up. this would suggest that people are starting to feel
romney will win that. everyone is surprised that all of these polls are pretty much saying obama is in command of the lead. chuck talked about they lost august. one reading is that they lost the summer, the romney campaign. if you look at obama did, they did, at the start of this race was in may. that's when they started going out with tough ads and framing romney as someone who wasn't in touch with the middle class and the tax issue, him releasing his tax returns. he was always on the...
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romney? >> well, it was -- obviously it was a one-on-one conversation. i know a little about it. they talked about what prime minister netanyahu meant about red lines, what his views were on the current state of play with iran. governor romney also sought out the prime minister's views on developments in the arab world. there is this sense of an unraveling going on right now throughout the middle east in many capitals, poses a threat to the united states. it poses real threats to israel on its borders and he just wanted his state of play. understand this is a relationship, piers. prime minister netanyahu and governor romney go back a number of decades. they worked together in business when they were both graduates from business school. they've kept in touch over the years. so prime minister netanyahu is someone that the governor reaches out to from time to time just to get his perspectives on the region and he certainly felt that given what's going on right now, in addition to the iranian cri
romney? >> well, it was -- obviously it was a one-on-one conversation. i know a little about it. they talked about what prime minister netanyahu meant about red lines, what his views were on the current state of play with iran. governor romney also sought out the prime minister's views on developments in the arab world. there is this sense of an unraveling going on right now throughout the middle east in many capitals, poses a threat to the united states. it poses real threats to israel...
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jim acosta traveling with mitt romney. president obama is trying to gain support what has traditionally been republican territory. what are you seeing? >> reporter: as you know, election day may be weeks away, but in virginia, ab sen tea voting is already under way and that is why you saw president obama and mitt romney treading on each other's turf this week. president obama heading to virginia beach as he tries to keep virginia out of reach for romney. >> reporter: in virginia beach, president obama tailored his latest attack on mitt romney to the military voters here as he hit his opponent for his recent comments that 37% of americans who don't pay income taxes see themselves as victims. >> i travel a lot around this country and i don't immediate meet a lot of victims. i see a lot of veterans who have served this country with bravery and distinction and i see soldiers who defend our freedom every single day and i see those military families who are wondering whether their loved ones are going to come back home safe and
jim acosta traveling with mitt romney. president obama is trying to gain support what has traditionally been republican territory. what are you seeing? >> reporter: as you know, election day may be weeks away, but in virginia, ab sen tea voting is already under way and that is why you saw president obama and mitt romney treading on each other's turf this week. president obama heading to virginia beach as he tries to keep virginia out of reach for romney. >> reporter: in virginia...
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governor romney, the primary debater versus governor romney the presidential debater. how are they going to be different? >> well, i think if he does what he did in florida, if he goes on offense, then, you know, he'll be the same debater that he was toward the end of the primary season. and that's what he needs to do. if he gets defensive, then i think that's a bad thing. so i think he'll go on offense, though. he certainly has a lot of material to work with. >> what do you think we're talking about wednesday morning, brett o'donnell? are we talking about how great of a performance he had or are we saying agh, this thing is probably over? >> no, first of all i think these could be great debates. you have two very capable debaters heading into the debates. and i think we're going to come out and learn more about the president's policies and learn that it was the president who is responsible for the economic conditions of millions of americans are suffering through right now. >> brett, i was going to give you the last line. i can't let it end there. richard, is that the
governor romney, the primary debater versus governor romney the presidential debater. how are they going to be different? >> well, i think if he does what he did in florida, if he goes on offense, then, you know, he'll be the same debater that he was toward the end of the primary season. and that's what he needs to do. if he gets defensive, then i think that's a bad thing. so i think he'll go on offense, though. he certainly has a lot of material to work with. >> what do you think...
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romney's 47% remark. you're probably not going to want to hear this, rich, but let's play it. >> [ inaudible ] they believe they are victims. they believe the government has the responsibility to care for them. who believe that they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> i got to tell you, we've tossed this around with my production team. and there are few who don't think that this is one of the most damning ads out there. this is one that's going to stick around. how in the world? because you put these words to faces. rich, how does the romney camp counter this? >> i think you can't. you can't counter it. you just have to try to change the discussion. i mean, four years ago when the president then senator obama made that bone-headed remark about pennsylvanians he went on to win pennsylvania in the general election. so these things have sort of a half life. and we'll see whether it still
romney's 47% remark. you're probably not going to want to hear this, rich, but let's play it. >> [ inaudible ] they believe they are victims. they believe the government has the responsibility to care for them. who believe that they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> i got to tell you, we've tossed this around with my production team. and there are few who...
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mitt romney into a relatable guy. at romney events they have been playing that video from the rnc but then they bumped that in favor of the crazy clint eastwood thing. this video about his family, it very nice. nobody saw it but they're using it at their events now and they have young mitt romney on a beach in france with his love letter to ann written in the sand. you can understand why mitt romney spent his draft eligible years writing love letters to ann in france. it might be worth a pound of questions about how he avoided serving during the war. they've even got him talking about health reform in that's again. conservatives are so scared of him losing as badly as he's losing, they are not even squawking about it as they did when he talked about romney care last month. they are trying to make people dislike their candidate less. and then thurston strikes again. >> he pulled me in, he tied up the boat for me, he rescued me just as he's going to rescue this great country. >> at the national level, fairly or not, vot
mitt romney into a relatable guy. at romney events they have been playing that video from the rnc but then they bumped that in favor of the crazy clint eastwood thing. this video about his family, it very nice. nobody saw it but they're using it at their events now and they have young mitt romney on a beach in france with his love letter to ann written in the sand. you can understand why mitt romney spent his draft eligible years writing love letters to ann in france. it might be worth a pound...
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what the romney side needs is that they still have to persuade people that governor romney is the guy they should vote for. at the national level, that means they need to fix whatever has gone so wrong with their campaign message and they need to stop doing whatever it is that has turned so many people off to their candidate. when you ask voters whether they like this mitt romney guy, the answer is a very, very plain answer. no. his favorable ratings are in the low 40s. almost 10 points lower than the ratings for president obama. lower, even, than the famously unpopular former president george w. bush right now. swing state voters say they do not think that mitt romney cares about the needs and problems of people like them. some of mr. romney's numbers are just shockingly bad. i mean double check. shockingly bad. look at the percentage of swing state voters who say mitt romney's policies will favor the middle class. in florida it's 8%. in ohio it's 9%. in pennsylvania it's 9%. whatever the romney campaign has done to get themselves to this point, whether it's mr. romney's tax returns,
what the romney side needs is that they still have to persuade people that governor romney is the guy they should vote for. at the national level, that means they need to fix whatever has gone so wrong with their campaign message and they need to stop doing whatever it is that has turned so many people off to their candidate. when you ask voters whether they like this mitt romney guy, the answer is a very, very plain answer. no. his favorable ratings are in the low 40s. almost 10 points lower...
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romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are sleeping in separate rooms. i'm joined by msnbc political analyst howard fineman and joy ann reid, managing editor of thegrio.com. more polling data that shows mitt romney trailing. let's check the hardball scoring board. according to a new fox news poll, president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48% to 43%. catch that, the fox poll. highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks to me like this divorce papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hear now is r
romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are...